Bridges Needed Over Salt Creek
If this week's rain storm proved anything, it's that the City of Menifee needs to build bridges over the Salt Creek at Murrieta Road...
http://www.menifee247.com/2010/01/bridges-needed-over-salt-creek.html
If this week's rain storm proved anything, it's that the City of Menifee needs to build bridges over the Salt Creek at Murrieta Road and Bradley Road. Or at least one of those roads.
With Murrieta Road and Bradley Road closed at Salt Creek, it created an absolute mess in Menifee, with gridlock traffic on Newport Rd and McCall Rd. The I-215 was the only connector over the Salt Creek.
Todd Reed submits this photo of Salt Creek flowing over Murrieta Road, taken today by his wife...
With Murrieta Road and Bradley Road closed at Salt Creek, it created an absolute mess in Menifee, with gridlock traffic on Newport Rd and McCall Rd. The I-215 was the only connector over the Salt Creek.
Todd Reed submits this photo of Salt Creek flowing over Murrieta Road, taken today by his wife...
Menifee Road at Matthews Road is a complete disaster as well.
ReplyDeleteAnd let's not forget "Lake Newport" washing out Newport Rd.
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice to have detour signs placed when the city closes a road. Being new to the area, it's rather frustrating to drive around and hit one closed road after another.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the city could update their website with a list of road closures.
A list of area closures would be quite helpful! I have no idea how to tell my husband to get home, since I don't know what roads are open.
ReplyDeleteWould be nice if the RCSD posted something on their site too.
What a MESS!
I couldn't agree more, Steve. And it isn't like this is the first time this has happened (to this extent).
ReplyDeleteEvery year, when we get any measurable amount of rain, Newport floods between Berea and La Ladera. Occasionally, we get a little more than just a measurable amount of rain and we end up with the situation we have now - one side of the city essentially cut off from the other side of the city.
And Anonymous, I can definitely feel your frustration. Not because I'm new to the area - quite the opposite. But I live in the tract of homes on the SE side of Salt Creek. Our neighborhood typically ends up being overcome with commuters trying to find a way home. And they usually end up driving in circles through the neighborhood trying to find their way out. This is largely because usually there are detour signs in place, however, the detour ends up leading nowhere other than from one side of the housing tract to the other.
I understand what the lack of detours does to create the frustration of people trying to get home from work. I have spent more days in my driveway feeling sorry for (and admittedly, laughing on occasion) at the people trying to get to the other side of Salt Creek. I've had countless people notice me and actually stop to ask how to get where they are headed. Their reaction is usually one of either complete horror or total disbelief when I tell them, for example, that the easiest way to get to La Ladera, is a way that is going to take them several miles out of their way.
Does anyone know how to get from Elsinore to Murrieta and Newport tonight?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @ 7:28 PM, actually you can take Bundy Canyon Rd east, and it takes you to Murrieta Rd, turn left to Newport. I think Goetz Rd is closed at Canyon Lake.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to get to Murrieta and Newport, you'll have to get off the 215 at Newport. Murrita Rd. is blocked at Salt Creek and Bradley is blocked at Salt Creek.
ReplyDeleteAlternatively, you can also travel south to Clinton Keith Rd. in Murrieta and take it to the I-215, still exiting at Newport Rd.
I heard Bundy Canyon was closed somewhere between I-15 and Murrieta Rd., which is why I suggested Clinton Keith. But I don't know that for a fact.
ReplyDeleteWell if Bundy Canyon is closed, then the only way to get from Elsinore to Menifee is Hwy 74 into Perris!
ReplyDeleteYes, Scott Rd (Bundy Canyon) is closed west of the 215.
ReplyDeleteScott Rd where it meets Winchester was totally washed out earlier, I don't know why it's not on the list of closures on the pe.com site.
picked up my daughter in high school, what usually takes 10 mins drive home(La ladera) took me an hour drive today. I have to go on 15, exit McCall. Newport was a mess, and didnt end there, 15 N and then McCall!
ReplyDeleteWhat are the chances that the part of Murrieta Rd in the picture will not be flooded tomorrow morning at 6:30 on my way to work at Target?
ReplyDeleteHow many of you had to be ferried to Menifee Valley Middle School to get your kids Thursday? The school was surrounded with water like a moat. How did the teachers get out? That school really sucks as far as picking up your kids, even on a good weather day.
ReplyDeleteWill,
ReplyDeleteIn the hopes that you will see this before you have to leave for work, the chances of it not being flooded are pretty slim, considering it rained pretty much all night long. I left for work @ 3:00 this morning and the road block on the south side of Salt Creek at Murrieta Rd. and Park City Ave. was still up.
It took me about 4 hours to get home last night with all the traffic and road closures. I have only found 1 route to get me to and from my house. I live over on the other side of the closures between Canyon Lake and the Newport closure. I think I ended up taking the 215 to McCall to Ridgmoor to La Ladera and down back out to Newport. Anyone else have any other ideas of how to get from the 215 or the 15 to Quail Valley?
ReplyDeleteI live in Quail Valley road closures all around and I work at Pechanga and I am staying home for my own safety and piece of mind..What a nightmare...
ReplyDeleteAnyone, isn't "New Newport" already paved, albeit one-way? Could not the City have opened it up temporarily as a bypass around Old Newport?
ReplyDeleteWe're in Quail Valley and my husband got home by coming down Railroad Canyon and then was luckily allowed to go through Canyon Lake and out at their entrance/exit on this side. Then he came up Goetz. It took him over 2 hours to get home last night because he originally came down the 215 but couldn't find away over here. He had to go back up Murrieta to Bundy to the 15 and then up Railroad.
ReplyDeleteWow that hail storm we had was incredible!
ReplyDeletethanks for the directions. think i'll stay put...and I hope they open up that new road before someone gets killed over there........
ReplyDeleteI have lived here for over 24 years and none of this is new. Now that we are a city can't something be done about these roads? Bridges over the salt creek would be great.
ReplyDeleteGarbani Rd. is flooded also. Its like a lake with a river that flows over the road.
ReplyDeleteWe do live in a FLASH FLOOD AREA! it been this way forever... when buying or looking for houses anything that looks like a water drain off or lake bed ...well its gonna be a mess! (yikes)
ReplyDeleteEveryone please be careful....I cant understand so many people ruining there cars driving in high water !!!!
Anonymous @6:25 - you hit the nail on the head, which really drives home Steve's point that we need actual bridges on Murrieta Rd. and Bradley Rd where they cross Salt Creek.
ReplyDeleteWe have had this problem in varying degrees for the 18 years I've lived in the area. Somebody else mentioned they've lived in the area for 24 years and its nothing new. That person mentioned that since we are now a city, perhaps we can get something done about it. Hopefully we can, but hopefully the city can get it done without having to foot the bill (or at least no having to foot all of it).
Personally, I think its an issue that should have been addressed either by the county or by developers whent he roads were originally constructed. I don't know how long the roads have been there, but I can't believe nobody knew this would happen. Even my 9 year old is observant enough to know that when a road dips down and follows the natural banks of a normally dry creekbed, the roads are going to get flooded when that dry creekbed suddenly becomes very wet and the water has nowhere else to go.
In the mean time ... How about a sign on Bradley at Cherry Hills when Sand Creek overflows:
ReplyDeleteRoad Closed
to Newport
or
Road Closed
at Sand Creek
we couldn't agree more....although this isn't anything new.....I think in time, there will be improvements....we walked along the creek the day after and it was a fabulous walk..saw Snowy Egrets and a Blue Heron enjoying the water...
ReplyDeleteHEY, lets cut to the chase. We all know what needs to be done- we need to grab some of those federal dollars being flung about by washington and improve our roads and yes add a bridge or 3 where needed! Heck, I come home from the 15 past canyon lake everyday. I had a real ball getting home- I live just north of Salt Creek off Murrieta Rd. Like others for me this is an annual event that I would preffer to do without. We also need roads that can be used for emergancies, that allow direct access accross town, from Quail Valley to the 215, and from Scott Rd. to Ethanac, that don't flood out. What good are Emergancy services, or hospitals, no matter how modern if you can't access them or they You.
ReplyDeleteHow about the curve heading North on the 215 just past Romoland that floods over the freeway??? You can't even get out of town heading North...If nothing else the State should use stimulas money to drain the State maintained freeway. Salt Creek area needs storm drains to direct water to Lake Elsinore. It seems all the developements require some type of lake, pumping or diversion of water to eventually go to the Lake where it's needed....it even seems to travel through the golf course....just need to improve all the drainage away from homes..
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